Magpie attack!

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sd2e10
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Magpie attack!

Post by sd2e10 » 14 May 2020, 14:16

Hi all,

I just wanting to post to see if anyone could tell me what this mark is that is on my tortoises neck?

A magpie recently got into his outside enclosure and whilst there was no immediate damage (thank goodness) I have spotted this mark today. He's passed urine, urates and pooped since the attack and they all seemed fine (urine a tad yellow). He's also eating fine and running around still but I have noticed that every so often he opens his mouth for an extended period of time. I thought this could be RI but it is only happening 2/3 times a day and he seems fine in himself.

At night he is kept in an indoor box with a heat lamp that turns on at 8am each morning. Dependent upon the weather he will then be moved to an outdoor pen (since fixed to be magpie-proof). His diet is a dried wildflower mix with Nutrobal on top.

Any advice any one can give would be hugely appreciated! Our usual vet is currently closed and I'm reluctant to take him to a new one in case they just give him a Vit-A hit.

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Re: Magpie attack!

Post by lin » 14 May 2020, 19:30

Hiya. sorry I dont know your name, but how lucky you were nearby to protect your little one from danger.

I cant see what you have circled, it seems to be to dark and I wonder if you could take another one and send it in a higher resolution to stop the pixelating when its enlarged.
I hope you dont mind me mentioning that he could do with a beak trim and it will allow him to eat more comfortably.

Can you also send in a photo of his enclosure where he spends the nights and what are the temps in there. And if it is to cold outside a photo of where you keep him indoors and the temps in the hot and cool areas in that too.
Sorry for lots of questions but if you can provide answers it will allow us to comment more on the health sude of things.

Here is a horsfield caresheet that you might find useful if you don't have one.
https://www.tortoise-protection-group.o ... 014New.pdf

Lin

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Re: Magpie attack!

Post by sd2e10 » 14 May 2020, 22:16

Hi Lin!

Thanks for the reply :) My names Sam!

I recently dropped my phone and since then the camera hasn’t been great; as soon as I can I’ll post pictures!

Underneath his heat lamp it’s between 32-34 and then the cooler end of his table is about 20. I will let him outside if it’s above 20.

Re: his beak, I don’t mind you saying at all! Before all this lockdown happened he was booked in to have it treated at the vets! I also wanted them to assess whether he has pyramiding but I guess I will have to wait for that answer!

Torts are such difficult pets as there’s always so much conflicting advice :(

Thanks for taking the time to reply x

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Re: Magpie attack!

Post by lin » 15 May 2020, 23:45

Hi Sam, before I forget can I say that tortoises are almost the easiest pets ever to care for. All we have to do is get the husbandry right, their dietry needs met and a safe secure enclosur and they practically look after themselves. :lol:

The heat - Can you drop it down a tad under the hot area so that it is aboout 30°C and measure the temp with a probe at the height of the shell directly under it. Photo below.

Thats typical the vets all closing down for lockdown just as we need them. It wont hurt to wait a while. Can I be the bringer of bad news and say yet he does have pyramiding, probably MBD, but it is something that has been going on for a while now and as I mentioned once we tweek the care and habitat it could slow down the process of the shell growth and it will never be smooth but could start to show some smooth growth in the future with slower growing

I agree there is a lot of conflicting advice out there and also good websites. Hope you like the good one you have found - ;) ;) ;) .

If you pick your tortoise up Sam, and hold his shell to your ear - can you hear anything, fluid or bubbles. I dont think the gulping motion is anything to worry about but keep an eye on him just incase.

Look forward to getting the photos when you can, no rush.
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